Paula Tennyson is a full-time mother and is the past Board Chair of the Sacred Heart school in Bloomfield Hills, MI. She moved back to the Greenwich area, where she and her husband, Christopher, grew up.

Paula holds a B.A. from Newton College of the Sacred Heart (now part of Boston College).

A member of the CSH Board of Trustees since 2007, Paula was chair of the Search Committee. Paula's experience with Sacred Heart education includes nine years of board service at The Academy of the Sacred Heart in Bloomfield Hills, including five years as Board Chair, as well as service on the Membership Committee for the Network of Sacred Heart Schools.  Paula currently serves as a board member of the Network of Sacred Heart Schools.

Paula and her husband, Chris, have two children, a son, Christopher, and a daughter, Megan (Bloomfield Hills '00).

Stephen J. Sweeny is President of The College of New Rochelle, a position he has held since 1997. He had previously been a faculty member and administrator at the College since 1976. The College, located in Westchester County and New York City, with four schools on six campuses and a current student population of almost 5,000, was founded by the Ursulines in 1904. Before his work in higher education, Dr. Sweeny was faculty member and principal in schools of the Archdiocese of New York.

Steve has a B.A. in Spanish literature from The Catholic University of America, an M.A. in theology and an M.A. in counseling psychology from Manhattan College. He received the Ph.D. in higher education from New York University. He participated in the Harvard Institute for Educational Management at Harvard University in 1990 and the Seminar for New Presidents in 1997, and has been a faculty member for this Harvard program annually since 1998. Dr. Sweeny is a Knight of the Order of Malta and a Knight Grand Cross in the Order of the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre.

Steve is a returning member of the Board of the Convent of the Sacred Heart, having served as Board member from 1990–1998 and Chair of the Board from 1992–1998. He was member and then Chair of the Sacred Heart Province’s Network Commission on Goals (NCOG) (now called the Sacred Heart Commission on Goals [SHCOG]), the representative body which assists the Sacred Heart Provincial in facilitating the faithfulness of each Network School to the Goals and Criteria. In the summer of 2000, he was the United States representative among the 17 international lay participants at the Society’s General Chapter in Amiens, France.

Steve is one of two Americans elected to the Board of the International Federation of Catholic Universities. He currently serves on the Board of Trustees of La Salle Academy, New York City, Alverno College, Milwaukee; Cardinal McCloskey Services of the Archdiocese of New York; and The Association for Catholic Colleges and Universities and the Tax Policy Committee of the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities. He is a member of the Higher Education Commission of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools and has served on other boards in support of the educational work of the Ursulines, the Sisters of Charity of New York, the De La Salle Christian Brothers and the Religious of the Sacred Heart. His professional and research interests include mission effectiveness studies of educational and other non-profit organizations.

He and his wife Barbara, a retired faculty member and holder of the Retzlaf Faculty Chair in Teaching Excellence at Horace Mann School, Riverdale, NY, are parents of Elizabeth, a CSH lifer, Class of 1997, who is completing the Ph.D. in Religious Ethics at the University of Chicago.

Don was elected Chief Executive Officer of Wilmington Trust in June 2010 and Chairman the following month. He joined the Wilmington Trust Board of Directors in July 2006, and served as Chairman of the Audit Committee for more than three years.

Prior to becoming CEO, Don served as senior vice president and treasurer of ITT Corporation, a supplier of advanced technology products and services. He was responsible for ITT's capital and financing activities, as well as its pension and defined contribution investments. In addition, Don was a member of the company's Executive Council, chairman of ITT Industries of Canada, and served on the boards of several of ITT's other direct investment and international subsidiaries.

Previously, Don was assistant treasurer for International Paper Company and held a progression of capital market, treasury, and tax-related assignments at Mobil Corporation. He began his career at General Electric.

A highly seasoned executive and skillful professional manager with extensive experience in financial services and asset management, Don has served on the advisory boards of Northern Trust's and Goldman Sachs' asset management groups. He has won numerous awards, including Institutional Investor's Corporate Pension Fund of the Year Award for Excellence in Investment Management; Money Management Letter's Corporate Award for Excellence; and Alternative Investment News' Institutional Investor of the Year award.

Don is chairman of the Board of Directors of the Burke Rehabilitation Center in White Plains, New York and a trustee of the Burke Foundation and the Convent of the Sacred Heart, an independent day school for girls in Greenwich, Connecticut.

He earned an MBA with honors from New York University and graduated cum laude from Union College in Schenectady, New York.

Don has served on the Board of Trustees of Convent of the Sacred Heart since 2005. Don is Treasurer of the Board and is the Chair of the Finance Committee. Don’s volunteer service to Sacred Heart has included chairing the Annual Giving campaign from 2002 through 2005.

Don and his wife, Barbara, have two children: a son, Christopher, and a daughter, Kate '09.

Imma De Stefanis, rscj, Ph.D. is currently on sabbatical working as an educational and leadership development consultant. Former vice president and professor of psychology at Manhattanville College, Sr. De Stefanis has also held many academic positions at all levels of education from teaching in Sacred Heart Network Schools to an assistant professorship at Boston College and a program directorship at Harvard University.

Sr. De Stefanis is a published author with more than 10 highly regarded resource publications in circulation. She serves as consultant in the fields of child psychology and adolescence, as well as grantsmanship. She holds professional memberships in several psychological, education research, and child/adolescent development associations.

Sr. De Stefanis is active in the Society of the Sacred Heart in positions of education to mission, leadership training, long range planning, vocation ministry, international education and service/learning projects in developing nations.

Sr. De Stefanis has served on the Convent of the Sacred Heart Board of Trustees since 2006. She also serves as vice president of the Board of Trustees for Good Counsel Academy High School in White Plains, N.Y.

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Rev. James T. Bretzke, S.J., is professor of Moral Theology at the Boston College School of Theology and Ministry. Prior to coming to BC in 2008, he served as chair of the Department of Theology and Religious Studies at the University of San Francisco.

He previously taught in Rome, Seoul, Berkeley, Manila and Milwaukee. Likewise his work with the Religious of the Sacred Heart has spanned three decades and three continents, as he has worked with the RSCJs in Korea, Rome, and, more recently, at the Schools of the Sacred Heart in San Francisco, where he served for 14 years as “Family Mass Children” and as a trustee during the first six years of Pam Hayes’ tenure as Director of Schools there.

He is the author of more than 70 scholarly articles and reviews, and five books, including A Morally Complex World: Engaging Contemporary Moral Theology (Liturgical Press, 2004). On weekends he helps at St. Michael’s Parish in Bedford, MA.

Joseph Ciancaglini is currently the Head of School at Convent of the Sacred Heart, 91st Street. Previously, he had served as Director of Schools for the Sacred Heart Schools in Atherton, CA from 2000 to 2007. Prior to that, he served as Headmaster of Gonzaga College High School, Washington, D.C., and taught classic literature and AP Psychology for 13 years, beginning in 1987. From 1980 to 1987, he was the Director of Admissions and Financial Aid at Gonzaga and a teaching assistant, Department of Theology, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C. from 1982 to 1986. Prior to that, he was Chairman of the Community Service Department and a teacher at Loyola High School, Towson, MD.

Joe holds an A.B. in philosophy from Georgetown University, where he was a recipient of the Spronck and Coakley medals. He also holds an M.A. in Philosophy from Georgetown. Joe also holds an Ed.M. in Counseling Psychology from Boston University and an Ed.D. in Educational Administration from the Teachers College of Columbia University. He was nominated the Outstanding Secondary School Principal by the Archdiocese of Washington at the 1995 NCEA Convention. He also was Chairman of the Jesuit Administrators Group from 1987 to 1995 and President of the Washington Metropolitan Athletic Conference in 1991 and 1997. Joe was President of the D.C. Principal's Association from 1989 to 1991 and from 1998 to 1999. He also was a member of the Convocation of 100, sponsored by the National Policy Review Board in Charlottesville, VA in 1989. He also held a Bard Fellowship in the Humanities, Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, NY in 1983.

Joe joined has been a member of the CSH Board of Trustees since 2008. He is chair of the board of the Network of Sacred Heart Schools.  He also serves on the board of Convent of the Sacred Heart 91st Street. Previous board service includes St. Martin de Porres School, Oakland, CA, Peninsula Bridge Program, Palo Alto, CA, TutorWorks, Palo Alto, CA, Oakwood Retirement Community, Atherton, CA., Loyola High School, Towson, MD, Loyola Retreat House, Faulkner, MA, Association of Independent Schools of Greater Washington, DC and the Jesuit Secondary Education Association.

Lenore de Csepel is a former music teacher and head of the Arts Department at Convent of the Sacred Heart. She served for more than 20 years, retiring in 2003.

Lennie is a graduate of Convent of the Sacred Heart 91st Street and Newton College of the Sacred Heart. She holds an MAT from Manhattanville College. Lennie is a 2002 recipient of Convent of the Sacred Heart, Greenwich’s honorary alumna award in recognition of her many years of dedicated service at Greenwich.

Lennie has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2005 and is currently chair of Strategic Planning. She is also the vice president of Meals On Wheels of Greenwich and is secretary of the Greenwich Symphony Orchestra.

She and her husband, John, are the proud parents of three grown children, Cathy, John and David.

Kathleen Dolan, rscj ’56 is a long-time educator in the Network of the Sacred Heart Schools, having served as administrator and teacher for many schools, including Convent of the Sacred Heart, Greenwich.

In addition to Greenwich, she served at the former Kenwood school in Albany, NY, following her vows in 1963. She taught and held administrative positions at Convent of the Sacred Heart at 91st Street, in New York City; Newton Country Day School of the Sacred Heart, in Newtown, MA; Academy of the Sacred Heart at Bloomfield Hills, MI; and Duchesne Academy in Houston, TX.

Sr. Dolan has just completed seven years teaching the first through eighth grades at St. Joseph’s School of the Sacred Heart Schools in Atherton, CA. At Atherton, she also was campus minister. She is on sabbatical through 2010.

She has served on boards and committees of various Network schools, including the Board of Trustees of Convent of the Sacred Heart, Greenwich. She recently completed a six-year term as a member of the Board of Trustees of Schools of the Sacred Heart, San Francisco. She currently serves on the board of the Academy of the Sacred Heart in Bloomfield Hills.

Sr. Dolan graduated from Convent of the Sacred Heart, Greenwich in 1956. At her 50th reunion on April 8, 2006, the Greenwich-Maplehurst Alumnae Association presented her with the Outstanding Alumna Award. Sr. Dolan has a B.A. from Manhattanville College and a M.S. in administration from the University of Notre Dame.

Lorena is a full-time mother and has always been involved in school-related activities. In Mexico, she was president of the Parent’s Association at the American School Foundation of Monterrey and volunteered in several local organizations. At Convent of the Sacred Heart, she has been active for the past 11 years. As an avid photographer she has captured thousands of Sacred Heart “moments” throughout the years.

She served on the board of the CSH Parents’ Association Board as chair of the Community Building Committee. Since September 2009, she has been the parent representative on the Sacred Heart Commission on Goals Steering Committee. In March 2010, she joined the the Strategic Planning Committee of the Board of Trustees.

 

Lorena received a B.A. in computer science from Instituto Tecnológico deEstudios Superiores de Monterrey, in Mexico. She worked for several years in the automation of the ATM banking system for a major bank in Mexico City.

Lorena and her husband, Juan, moved from Monterrey, Mexico to Greenwich in 1999. They have four children, Lorena ’04, Dan, Alejandra ’09 and Regina ’14, a CSH lifer.

Bill Finnegan is an independent consultant. He has more than 25 years experience in investment banking and asset management. Bill graduated from the Hotchkiss School and Dartmouth College. He also earned an MBA from the Amos Tuck School at Dartmouth.

Bill has served on the Convent of the Sacred Heart Board of Trustees since 2006 and is chair of the Investment Committee. Over the last several years, he has served on several corporate and not-for-profit boards.

Bill and his wife, Anne, have a son, Christopher, and two daughters, Helen Carr ’09 and Audrey ’11, who represent the fifth generation of Bill’s family to attend Sacred Heart. In addition, Bill has six nieces that are either attending or have graduated from CSH Greenwich. Bill’s two sisters, Nora Finnegan Dolce ’70 and Cathy Finnegan Nix ’71, both attended CSH. Nora is a past trustee and Cathy is vice chair of the Greenwich-Maplehurst Alumnae Board.

Kevin J. Grehan has been a partner with the law firm of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP since 1988. He has a broad corporate and real estate practice, with an emphasis on mergers and acquisitions of public and private companies, private equity funds, joint ventures, financings and securitizations. He was recommended as a corporate real estate attorney by PLC Which Lawyer? 2007.

Kevin was born in Mount Kisco, New York. He received a B.A. summa cum laude from Fordham College in 1978 where he was elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and a J.D. from Columbia Law School in 1981 where he was a Stone Scholar and writing and research editor of the Law Review.

Kevin has served on the Board of Trustees since 2004. His volunteer service to Sacred Heart includes many years of pro bono legal work on behalf of the School. Kevin is co-chair of the Buildings and Grounds Committee.

Kevin and his wife, Pam, have two daughters, Megan and Heather. Megan is a 2007 graduate from Convent of the Sacred Heart and is currently a senior at Vanderbilt University. Heather is a 2010 graduate from Convent of the Sacred Heart and will be attending USC.

Pamela Juan Hayes ‘64 became Head of School for Convent of the Sacred Heart on July 1. Mrs. Hayes was appointed Head of School beginning with the 2009-2010 academic year. The Board of Trustees reached its unanimous decision following a national search and with the enthusiastic participation of more than 400 parents, alumnae, faculty and staff, students, and friends. 

Mrs. Hayes' experience with Sacred Heart began when she joined the first grade at Convent of the Sacred Heart. After graduation, she pursued a bachelor’s degree at Briarcliff College, and then received her master’s degree in teaching from Manhattanville College. She brings a strong record of experience in the Network of Sacred Heart Schools as a faculty member and administrator for three Sacred Heart schools – Greenwich, New York and San Francisco.

While at Greenwich, she taught English and drama, served as head of the Middle School, and directed the Middle School’s community service program. In 1996, she became Head of Convent of the Sacred Heart Elementary School at San Francisco. In 2000, Mrs. Hayes was appointed Director of the Schools of the Sacred Heart at San Francisco, a position she held until becoming Greenwich’s Head of School.

As a member of the Program and Planning Committee of the Network of Sacred Heart Schools (1989-1996), Mrs. Hayes deepened her understanding of Sacred Heart schools as transformational in nature. Her educational philosophy is aligned with St. Madeleine Sophie Barat, the foundress of the Society of the Sacred Heart, who said: “I would have founded the Society for the sake of a single child.” She is dedicated to educating girls and young women to become leaders and play transformative roles in society.

Kim is an attorney in private practice, specializing in residential real estate. Previously she served as counsel to a general practice firm in White Plains, New York and was a litigation associate at Herrick, Feinstein in New York City. Earlier in her career, Kim held positions as a marketing consultant and account supervisor in support of numerous major sporting events.

Kim holds a B.A. and J.D. from St. John’s University.

Kim has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2006 and is the co-chair of the Development Committee. She previously served as president of the Parents’ Association at CSH.

Kim and her husband, Paul, have three daughters, all of whom attend Convent of the Sacred Heart, Ally, Christie and Tory.

Jeanet Irwin is currently a trustee of the JJJ Foundation. She previously worked as a teacher and volunteer at the Brick Church School and taught French in an after-school program at Marymount School in New York City.

Jeanet holds a B.A. in English from Dartmouth College and an M.A. in early childhood education from Columbia University Teachers College.

Jeanet has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2006. She is currently chair of the Transition Committee. Her volunteer work at CSH includes the Diversity Committee, the Arts and Enrichment Committee, of which she was chair, the annual Book Fairs and faculty appreciation luncheons. She also is a member of the CAFÉ Book Club and assisted in costume production for Lower School drama events.

She and her husband, John, the former Board Chair at Convent of the Sacred Heart, have two daughters, both of whom are alumnae of CSH, Anna ’05 and Genevieve ’08.

Kevin Knight is the President of K Group in Norwalk, Connecticut, a market research consulting company that provides qualitative and quantitative research, as well as marketing consulting, for a variety of clients.  Prior to that, Kevin held various management positions at Procter and Gamble and Richardson Vicks.

Kevin is a graduate of Archbishop Molloy High School. He also holds a B.S. from SUNY Oneonta with a dual major in Math and Statistics. He also holds an M.S. in Statistics from Bowling Green State University.

Kevin has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2004. Other volunteer work for Sacred Heart includes chairing the diversity task force, pro bono marketing and branding consulting as well as leading the diversity book club.

Kevin and his wife, Terri (a former Parent’s Association president and past trustee), have three children, daughters Alessandra ’09 and India ’12, and a son, Johanan.

Robert G. Leary is Chief Executive Officer, ING Insurance U.S. 

Before joining ING, Rob held senior leadership positions with several large financial institutions. Most recently he served as Executive Vice President and Head of North America Corporate and Investor Marketing for AIG Financial Products Corp., a financial products subsidiary of AIG Group, Inc. that concentrates on the derivatives and structured products market. Additionally, he served as President of their broker dealer AIG Financial Securities Corp. Before AIG, he was with JP Morgan, developing derivatives and structured products for a wide range of institutions. Rob began his career as a lawyer with White & Case, where he helped establish the firm's Middle East presence with an office in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Rob received his J.D. from Fordham University, School of Law, New York and is a graduate of Union College, in New York, with an honors degree in political science.

Rob has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2003 and was chair of the Development Committee from 2004 through 2007.  He also serves on the Board of Trustees of the Mystic Seaport Museum.

Rob and his wife, Nora, have one child, a lifer at CSH, Emma ’13.

Patricia Molloy is a full-time mother and a volunteer in many organizations. For more than 13 years, she has worked on Convent of the Sacred Heart’s Tuesday Morning Carver Center Program. She has also been a long-time volunteer at Nathaniel Witherell Nursing Home. She also served on the Board of the St. Michael’s Church Women’s Association as the outreach chair.

Pat joined the CSH Board of Trustees in 2003. During her time on the Board, she has served as co-chair of the Development Committee and is now co-chair of the Governance Committee. A parent at Sacred Heart since 1991, she has served on the Parents’ Association Board at CSH for many years; she was the Lower School Representative for 2003-2004 and then served as the outreach chair. She also served as the parent representative on the last SHCOG Steering Committee.

Pat attended Seton Hall University.

Pat and her husband, Ron, have four children, Katie ’99, Sean, Colin and Emma ’13, a lifer at Sacred Heart.

Deborah Brown Murdock is a graduate of Stuart Country Day School of the Sacred Heart in Princeton, New Jersey. She holds a B.A. in economics from Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut.

Debbie served on the Alumnae Board and as Alumnae Board president at Stuart from 1998-2000. She was a trustee for Stuart from 2003 to 2006, and in that capacity chaired the Admissions and Public Relations Committees. Debbie’s two sisters also graduated from Stuart. Her father served as a trustee at Stuart while she and her sisters attended the school.

Debbie and her husband, Brian, are currently co-chairs of the Parent Directors Program at Trinity College. Her interests include volunteering for local non-profit organizations.

The Murdocks have four children, Brian Jr., Kate, Annie, and Colleen. All three of their daughters attended the Sacred Heart School in Tokyo, Japan, as well as Stuart in Princeton. Annie ’10 and Colleen attended Convent of the Sacred Heart, Greenwich.

Mandy Dawson Murphy ‘85 is vice president of her family’s marketing company, Dearfield Associates. She also worked at Seventeen Magazine for many years, capping off her career as a director for the marketing department.

Mandy is graduate of the Class of 1985 at Sacred Heart. Mandy entered Convent of the Sacred Heart in 1978 in sixth grade and has remained close to the Sacred Heart community ever since. She holds a B.A. from Williams College.

Mandy joined the CSH Board of Trustees in 2008 and is also the president of the Greenwich-Maplehurst Alumnae Board. She is also a second-generation trustee, as her mother served on the Board of Trustees for CSH Greenwich from 1988-1991. Mandy has been a member of the Alumnae Board since 2005. Her family ties to the wider network extend for two generations. Her grandfather, John A. Dawson, worked with Ed Conan, the father of the current Provincial of the Society of the Sacred Heart and former headmistress of Sacred Heart, Greenwich, Kathleen Conan, rscj, in the founding years of the Jesuit school, LeMoyne College. Her great, great aunt, Harriet Lintott, was an RSCJ who taught for many years at the Sacred Heart school in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where Sr. Lintott was a teacher in writing and a surveillante (academic dean).

Mandy and her husband, Tim, are the parents of two Convent of the Sacred Heart students, Marion and Robin.

Justine Ryan will serve as the Parents’ Association president for 2010-2011.

Justine is a graduate of Boston College, where she earned a Bachelor of Science degree from the School of Nursing. After graduation, Justine worked as a critical care and cardiology nurse for several years in Massachusetts before moving to New York, where she became the Corporate Nurse Manager for Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc., supervising five clinics as well, as all nursing and administrative staff.

Justine was a member of the Junior-League Stamford-Norwalk, St. Thomas More Church Women’s Circle and served as vice president of fundraising for the YWCA Stamford-Norwalk. She also served on the executive board for the Pear Tree Point School in Darien, and was co-president of the Parent Faculty Organization.

Justine lives in Darien with her husband, Thomas, and their three children, Connor (Fairfield Prep ’11), Taylor, a CSH tenth-grader, and Casey.

Anthony Scala is a professional engineer and the president of Lowy & Donnath, an electrical construction company. He has managed electrical construction projects in the New York City area, as well as in other areas of the country, for 34 years. Anthony is also a member of the New York City Building Department Code Revision Steering Committee.

Anthony holds a B.E.C.E. from Manhattan College.

Anthony has served on the CSH Board of Trustees since 2003. He is the co-chair of Buildings and Grounds and oversaw the construction of the Middle School/Media Center. Anthony is also on the Board of Trustees of Manhattan College, where he serves as vice chair and is a member of the Executive Committee. Anthony has also served in the Partner’s Circle of the Salesian Sisters, assisting Salesian Sisters in Patterson, NJ and Port Chester, NY with projects involving internet connectivity and inner city school upgrades. He also served on the School Advisory Board for Corpus Christi Parish.

Anthony and his wife, Mary Ellen, have two sons, Anthony III and Christopher, and a daughter, Vicky ’06.

Mary Sutherland is a full-time mother and is actively involved in community and charitable organizations.

Mary is a 1985 graduate of Convent of the Sacred Heart and holds a B.A. from Boston College.

Mary has served on the Board of Trustees since 2003 and is currently chair of the Committee on Trustees. She previously served as co-chair of the Capital Campaign, both vice chair and secretary of the Greenwich-Maplehurst Alumnae Board and a class mother. She was also a member of T.W.I.G. (Rye/Harrison chapter).

Mary and her husband, MacDonald, have three children, a son, Connor, and two daughters, Grace ’16 and Julia ’19.

Joseph Walsh has worked in the financial services business for more than 20 years. He is currently the President of Amherst Securities Group a fixed-income broker dealer located in New York. Previously he was a managing director and partner in the Private Equity Business of Fortress Investment Group and a managing director and member of the Board of Directors of RBS Greenwich Capital.

Joe graduated from Princeton University in 1986 with an A.B. degree in biology.

Joe joined the CSH Board of Trustees in 2008. He is active in several Lyme Disease and epilepsy-related charities.

He and his wife, Barbara, have three children, a son and two daughters, both of whom are students at Sacred Heart.

Patreece Williams-Creegan ’84 is an independent healthcare consultant. She has more than 20 years of experience in the field of healthcare, beginning her career at Rockefeller University performing breast cancer research. Patreece has worked in many areas of healthcare including strategy, regulatory consulting and compliance. Her work spans the pharmaceutical, provider, and payer arenas. In addition to Rockefeller University, Patreece has worked for Towers Perrin, General Electric, MetLife, PricewaterhouseCoopers and IBM.

Patreece is a graduate of the Class of 1984. She has been a member of the Greenwich-Maplehurst Alumnae Board since 2006 where she currently serves as vice president.

Patreece has been a member of the CSH Board of Trustees since 2009.

Patreece graduated from Mount Holyoke College with a B.A. in biology, from Yale University Medical School with a master’s in public health with a concentration in healthcare management, and from The University of Houston Law Center with a juris doctor with a concentration in health law and policy.

Patreece and her husband, Patrick, have a son, Paul.